Some un-edited writeups of conversations that I’ve had with Ben Hoffman, and Jessica Taylor, and Michael Vassar

Extended Paraphrase of Ben and Jessica’s general view [December 2019]

Eli’s Summary of a Conversation with Vassar [October 2020]

Overview of my conversation with Vassar on Wednesday Feb 10: Trauma patterns [February 2021]

Eli’s notes from Spencer’s interview with Vasser [February 2021]

Parsing Ben and Michael’s key points from that giant twitter conversation [May 2021]

2 thoughts on “Some un-edited writeups of conversations that I’ve had with Ben Hoffman, and Jessica Taylor, and Michael Vassar

  1. All but February 2021 appear to be access-locked.

    Comments on that one: this is an unusual definition of trauma: the central example (in my mind) of trauma is shell shock and other soldier’s damage from violence, and this does not seem to overlap much; civilians don’t understand military trauma but generally do try to support those who have it. Personally, even social traumas I’ve experienced would not be best characterized as being about a mismatch of expectations. I would summarize most as being betrayals of trust (sometimes misplaced trust, sometimes reasonably well-founded).

    I know multiple cases of abandonment issues, which were not substantially fixed by finding new communities that validated this as being awful. This seems surprising in this model, if not quite forbidden outright.

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